Perks of Being A Wallflower

In our latest episode, we talk about trauma. We talk about introverts. We talk about nostalgia. We talk about how teenagers are mostly jerks. We name drop a few of our friends. That’s right. It’s time for Perks of Being A Wallflower.


The novel, by American writer Stephen Chbosky, was first published in February 1999 was made into a movie with the same title in 2012.

We hope you enjoy the episode!

The Da Vinci Code

Sooooo you know how sometimes you take a break from something and then you forget what you were doing and calendars are accidentally turning to the wrong year and so scheduled things don't appear where and when they are supposed to and then you realize you have to do something drastic but then STUFF keeps happening?

Yeah. that.


We Are Back! From our summer hiatus! And the episode that was supposed to drop on Sept. 13th (but didn't... and yes there is totally a nefarious reason why involving censorship by the church, or... something...) is dropping today… one week late.

A thousand apologies.


This week we discuss the 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code as well as the 2006 movie by the same name.

In this episode, we both rag on Dan Brown's writing partly because we are jealous of his book deals. We also talk about the difference between historical fiction and speculative fiction. And Jennifer curses more than Kaylia for the first (and maybe only) time! Enjoy!

A few notes:

In our discussion we talked about the Vitruvian Man.


The MAN in question

The Vitruvian Man
was created by Leonardo da Vinci around the year 1487. It is accompanied by notes based on the work of the famed architect, Vitruvius Pollio. The drawing, which is in pen and ink on paper, depicts a male figure in two superimposed positions with his arms and legs apart and simultaneously inscribed in a circle and square. The drawing and text are sometimes called the Canon of Proportions or, less often, Proportions of Man.

Also, since it comes up rather often in the book, movie, and our discussion: Fibonacci Numbers: a series of numbers in which each number ( Fibonacci number ) is the sum of the two preceding numbers. The simplest is the series 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, etc.

There is also a bit of discussion about the Pentagram vs the Pentacle and so I offer you a resource:

The word I couldn’t think of during recording is “pareidolia.”

Seeing recognizable objects or patterns in otherwise random or unrelated objects or patterns is called pareidolia. It's a form of apophenia, which is a more general term for the human tendency to seek patterns in random information

Other resources:

Thanks for listening!

Fight Club

Join us as we throw our normal structure out the window and discuss Fight Club! Of course we talk about the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, white privilege, gender roles… and the responsibility artists have to how their art is interpreted. Enjoy!

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Bridget Jones's Diary

In our Bridget Jones’s Diary episode, we discuss the problems of chick lit, 90s style “feminism,” whether or not Mark Darcy is simple an insufferable ass or if he grows and changes… and Kaylia admits to not liking Jane Austen despite her English degree. Also, some Star Trek references and even a Star Wars connection because some of you like that sort of thing. Enjoy!

Can you judge a book by its cover? In this case… we think yes.

Can you judge a book by its cover? In this case… we think yes.

Show Notes:

The song at the top of our episode is “Have You Met Miss Jones” by the lovely Robbie Williams.Listen to the whole thing here.

As we said in the episode, the Stone to Pound Conversion rate is 14:1. Don’t believe us? Check out this conversion table.

More notes regarding “Chick Lit”:

Chick lit or chick literature is genre fiction, which "consists of heroine-centered narratives that focus on the trials and tribulations of their individual protagonists". The genre often addresses issues of modern womanhood – from romantic relationships to female friendships to matters in the workplace – in humorous and lighthearted ways.. At its onset, chick lit's protagonists tended to be "single, white, heterosexual, British and American women in their late twenties and early thirties, living in metropolitan areas". The genre became popular in the late 1990s, with chick lit titles topping bestseller lists and the creation of imprints devoted entirely to chick lit. Chick lit critics generally agreed that British author Catherine Alliott's The Old Girl Network (1994)was the start of the chick lit genre and the inspiration for Helen Fielding's Bridget Jones's Diary (1996) which was wildly popular and is the "ur-text" of chick lit.

Another term we tossed about a bit was “Mary Sue”

A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Typically, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience, and usually are able through some means to upstage the main protagonist of an established fictional setting, such as by saving the hero.

We hope you enjoy this episode. Please let us know if you agree with our assertions by sounding off on our FB page or shooting us an email at pagesandpopcornpodcast!


Yup! Nothing like a summer blockbuster book to end the month of June!

In this episode we discuss the novel/film Jaws. We talk about toxic masculinity, the benefits of the bromance versus the romance, some fun movie trivia, and how nature is scary even when it is a metaphor for economic occurrences. Enjoy!

Jaws, as you probably know was a 1974 book by Peter Benchley which was made into a 1975 blockbuster hit directed by Steven Spielberg.

Just for fun… watch the preview!

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Shoeless Joe / Field of Dreams Book vs Movie!

Join us as we discuss Shoeless Joe and the movie it inspired: Field of Dreams! We talk about how much we enjoyed this baseball movie despite neither of us being all that interested in baseball. Also, when fan fiction goes to a weird tacky place, Kaylia breaks the record for times the word “whatever” is muttered, and Jennifer provides us with some very interesting trivia about the film. Enjoy!

Shoeless Joe vs Field of Dreams.

Shoeless Joe vs Field of Dreams.


Apologies to the town of Chisholm for my awful pronunciation of your town.

Also… that quote from Ebert about sports movies not just being about sports movies? Yeah. I must have dreamed it. I can’t find it. So… yeah… Anyway, here is a list of some of his great quotes and I will try to figure out what I was trying to quote.

Here, however, is the essay that Jennifer referenced regarding Neil Gaiman and his feelings on the public’s sense of entitlement to an artist’s work:

And now for the 4 men named Chris:

Chris Pine, also known as Captain Kirk.

Chris Evans, also known as Captain America.

Chris Hemsworth, aka Thor.

Chris Pratt, or Star-Lord. 

And I’m not the only one who sometimes can’t remember which Chris is which:

2nd to last: The memoir that I kept talking about can be found here. I highly recommend reading it.

LASTLY: I apologize for the weird clicking sound that happens during this episode’s recording. I’m pretty sure it is my ceiling fan. Next time I will crank the AC.


Sources used:


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Welcome to the Pages and Popcorn Podcast Goodreads Group! This community is inspired by, and connected to, the Pages and Popcorn Podcast. In our biweekly podcast episodes, we recap and then discuss a movie that was based on a book as well as the original source material. We talk about what the themes are, what changes were made and how they affected the overall point of the stories. And we try to answer the age-old question: “Is this worth my time?” Join us as we discuss books and the films they inspired! We have a website a Patreon a Facebook and a Twitter @PagesPop / Join us!

Our podcast-fodder shelf

The Mist
A Simple Favor
Nothing Lasts Forever
The Last Unicorn
Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistle Stop Cafe
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Breakfast at Tiffany's
Three-Ten to Yuma and Other Stories
The Children of Men
Girl, Interrupted
Kiss of the Spider Woman
Their Eyes Were Watching God
Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH
The Silence of the Lambs
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty

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We will have monthly discussion topics… and this month, in honor of it being June and Pride month, we want to hear about your favorite LGBTQ titles!

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Secret Life of Walter Mitty

Join us as we discuss product placement, the problems of “living in the moment,” how much magic is too much magic for a real movie, whether or not Todd should have been real, and the feminist themes in this male-centric “just do it” mid-life crisis movie.

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3:10 To Yuma

Join us as we discuss the 2007 film 3:10 to Yuma and the short story that was its inspiration. Topics this time around include morality, choices, toxic masculinity, the true meaning of sacrifice... and the gayest not-gay cowboy ever: Charlie Prince. Enjoy!


"Three-Ten to Yuma" is a short story written by Elmore Leonard that was first published in Dime Western Magazine, a 1950s pulp magazine, in March 1953. It is one of the very few Western stories that has been adapted to the screen twice, in 1957 and in 2007.

Here are a few helpful links:

The wiki for the short story.

The imdb for the 2007 film… and just for fun, the imdb for the 1957 film (which we reference but don’t dig too deeply into).

My research sources:

And then for even more fun: Charlie Prince!

Breakfast At Tiffany's


Our most recent episode is ready for your ears!

Join us as we discuss Breakfast At Tiffany’s.


Movie Info here!

In this episode we mostly agree and we treat you to multiple musical interludes… including a never before heard parody song!

Notes about this episode: Kaylia talks fast. There is a LOT of plot and the recaps are both a little intense.

If you want to skip the blow by blow recaps, feel free to jump to the 24 minute mark. Or, if you want to hear my nuanced nicknaming and only slightly snarky spiel but it is all going too fast... use your podcast player’s “go at half speed function.”

Both are valid life choices.


As promised, here are the sources I used to prepare for this episode’s discussion.


- Truman Capote, Playboy interview, 1968

Winner Winner Popcorn Dinner!

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As you know, all the above actions earned a bunch of you the chance to win a fabulous drawing… and thanks to google’s ability to roll dice, we have a winner!

The prize is on theme like we promised… this is Pages and POPCORN Podcast, right? and today is National Popcorn Day, right? Yes!


Congratulations Amber S.!

In honor of today being National Popcorn Day and you being a superfan…. We want to gift you: Popcorn! That’s right, you are now the proud owner of a gift certificate to Grandpa’s Popcorn and Sweets!! The friendly staff over at the Nees location will be happy to serve you anytime! Your gift certificate is there waiting for you! Please let us know what delightful flavor you pick out and happy munching!


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We want to announce our Patreon!  We now have a quick and easy way for you to support this podcast and get some cool little perks.

We have started with two tiers… join us at the $1 level to get our episodes as soon as they drop… this could be way in advance of the general public… or it might be twenty minutes before wide release.

Our second tier at $5 gets that immediate release as well as access to our monthly supplemental episodes and our mailbag episodes. Supplemental episodes will feature us talking about books not in the book to film genre, as well as other topics as they arise. We also hope to have some Super Friend interviews and other fun things.

Our first supplemental episode will be our wrap of our our favorite books that we read in 2018.

More tiers and more perks coming soon but since this is new and we want to drive some traffic to our little podcast, we are doing something special right now.


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